Sinatra Family Forum
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Wow What a Ride
Someone sent this to me today and I thought I'd pass it on. LIFE MOTTO "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, no money left, cigarette in one hand, favorite Jack Daniels in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming " WOW, WHAT A RIDE!!!! I mean no offense to the Sinatra family, but hope thats the way Frank went. FOREVER SINATRA Charlie
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<< I mean no offense to the Sinatra family, but hope thats the way Frank went. >>
You've been here a while and I think you have read Tina's book, so your hope is unfounded, Charlie. You know that's not the case with Dad.
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Charlie
Not me! I want to enjoy my time in this plane to the max. However, I also don't want to abuse my body to the point that I am an invalid by the time I'm 65. I have many friends whose parents thought as you do and the results were people who looked 80 when they were 60 and didn't live to see their grandchildren grow up. I will have fun and take advantage of my youth to enjoy travel and all of the fun that goes with it. However, I am also aware that my activities and habits during my 30's will determine how my last 2 decades will be. I want to be able to enjoy life until the very end with the least amount of limitations.
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Life.....and death
Just returned from the wedding in Italy....and whilst I was there, I read an amazing quote....
many years ago, an Italian race car driver was interviewed by a journalist who kept pressing him on the dangers of his profession, and his proximity to death every day on the track. He kept saying 'how can you find the courage to race, knowing you could die?!'.........The driver asked the journalist 'well, how do you wish to die eventually'? The journalist responded 'in my sleep, late at night'....and the driver responded, ' my friend, how do you find the courage to turn out the light and go to sleep each night?" Live life to the fullest, and never have regrets. Sadly, as we all know from Tina's book, and from other accounts, Frank's later years were the antithesis of his life, but I hope he is singing and dancing forever in heaven with his beloved family and friends who preceeded him. My thoughts on life and death: Do your best to stay healthy. Don't abuse your body, but do have fun. As socrates once wrote, moderation is the key. You can be as healthy in practice, and still be afflicted by an unforeseen accident or malady, but at the same time, it doesn't make sense to accellarate death too much either.
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Wow What A Ride
To Nancy, Yes I've been around here for while, and yes indeed have read your's and Tina's books several times over.
I know it wasn't good for your Dad the last few years, guess it was wishful thinking on my part. Maybe when he got to heaven he got the JD and was able to say Wow' What a Ride!! Thats what I'd like to think anyway. Charlie FAS There will never be another you
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<< I know it wasn't good for your Dad the last few years, guess it was wishful thinking on my part. >>
If you knew then perhaps you might have not included that comment in your first post. I'm sure you realize this family has suffered because of what happened to Dad in the last years of his life. I don't understand, Charlie.
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Frank's life
Hi Nancy
I always feel for you when you say sad things about how Frank's life ended. It must be so tough on you. I just wanted to say that for the greater part of his life it was brilliant. I fully realise that you had a roller coaster life yourself in lots of ways after Frank left, but in your Book and in Tina's book the love for him shines through. I will try to remember Frank at his peak and try to hold on to that memory forever. I bet you would prefer to remember your Dad in that way, wouldn't you? Love, Barry. xxx |
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I am certainly not going to preach or pass judgement on anybody else here, but alcohol and cigarettes are not a good thing to use. I have done both and I am clean for a long time and I feel a lot better for it. Alcohol especially, as I have received so much more freedom since I gave it up in 2001. What a blessing my doctor did when he told me and convinced me to quit.
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NATURE
Hi
I think that a human being is an integrated part of nature, like anything else in nature. If it's looked after properly....don't overdo anything...be "balanced"...then it survives better. ( There are always exceptions) It's more booring that way...that's the price you pay. But there always is a price to pay for whatever you do. That's the " Cause and affect" result. Live a natural life and be true to yourself. That's the answer. Barry. |
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Hi Nancy,
I just re-read your first book and unlike the first time I read it so many years ago, it has left me terribly sad. I can't even imagine the soul-wrenching pain you must feel over the loss of your father. This may seem funny but my heart aches for you. Emily |
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<< This may seem funny but my heart aches for you. >>
I'm not sure I understand why you think it seems funny. I think it's very sweet, but if your heart aches for any of us it should ache for Dad. He didn't deserve the shabby, abusive treatment he received in those last years. There was nothing we could do, short of kidnapping that might have saved him.
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Hi Nancy,
I meant funny like strange. When I read Tina's book about your dad's final years it made me sick. I was depressed for weeks. What happened to him was evil. It is truly heart breaking to me. I always thought someone was a "golddigger" but then I was teen and I wanted him to go home to your mother. (I hope she is well.) Emily |
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Nancy,
You and your family have touched us all by sharing the details of your father's final years. You have every right to hurt and to feel absolute contempt for the way he was treated by that woman. I know you recognize how much all of us here loved your father and love you and your family, and no matter how wonderful his life was up to that point, the way he was treated by her those last years is absolutely abhorrent. After reading Tina's book, I think we all got a reality-check on what his final days/months/years were like, and although it is inexusable, maybe just try to remember he isn't suffering under her anymore. His soul lives forever, in heaven, and in our hearts. I am certian your father treasured all the memories of his life with you and your family and all those wonderful, special experiences and people he met along the way, and also knowing how he touched so many people and facets of our lives. Perhaps even when the latter days were tough and lonely, he was able to draw on those memories to keep his spirits. Maybe that is wishful thinking, but I believe it. I'm not foolish enough to think my or our words can help erase and certianly can't change the pain those years caused you and your family, and especially Mr. Sinatra..but those final times can not diminish the wonderful life he had. His life, and the way he lived it, was and is still such an inspiration to us all. He embodies everything about this nation that is great. Although I didn't know him personally, he embodied so much that I admire. The way I look at it is, his final years were beyond misfortunate, but he lived a great life, filled with incredible journeys and the when I see sick or dying children, the way I look at it, any of us that make it to their 80s in relatively good health most of the way and with blessings and good fortune along the way, is very lucky, indeed.
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Lovely post, Christopher.
Thank you.
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Frank certainly deserved better...Barbara was a decietful,coniving b---h and I hope she chokes on her money.I was so digusted when I read Tina's book I literally threw the book across the room (hitting a lamp in the process) when I read the part about Frank's illness and the way Barbara acted. She makes me sick. I am so sorry the Sinatra family had to suffer this b---h's machinations....but I am more sorry that Frank's last years had to be spent with the worthless,money-grubbing wh-re!
If there is justice in this world then she is a most unhappy,miserable person right now. Hannah Added later: I just read your post Emily...yes "evil" defintely describes Barbara. |
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Wow What A Ride
To Nancy, my humbilist apologies to you and the Sinatra family.
I guess my head wasn't on straight,when I posted what I did, mostly I was thinking of the last line. Your Dad led an incredible life, much envied by both Men and Women. Yes I know he had his ups and downs and felt things very deeply. I will never forgive or forget what that B---h did to him. Their is no excuse she could ever give, that would justify her evil treatment of him. I love and adore your Father, and have the deepest respect for the Sinatra family. Pleas accept my humbilist apologies Charlie FOREVER SINATRA |
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