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Old 12-13-2002, 11:25 PM
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Question on "Classic Duets" CD

I'd like discographical info about each trak on this release. The date, network and name of the program for each song. I know most of them are from the ABC Frank Sinatra Show. And there were shows for Timex, Edsel and maybe Club Oasis and others. For those of you too young to remember, Edsel was a car and Oasis was a cigarette.

If you have this information and will post it, thanks in advance.

Ed S.
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Old 12-14-2002, 05:19 AM
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Edwin..

Funny, I remember the Edsel but not Oasis cigarettes!They must have been produced by the makers of Camels!
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Old 12-14-2002, 09:31 PM
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Yeah, there were

several cigarette brands that marketed themselves with refreshing terms with their brand names("Kool" for example) and "Oasis" was one of them. Most other makes did the same with their ad copy. They successfully made the idea of selling stinking poisonous paper-wrapped leaves to people to stick in their mouths, set them on fire and inhale their fumes is a refreshing, attractive and even "kool" thing to do.

It kills millions of people every year in this country, but it makes billions of dollars for the tobacco industry, so that makes it okay. Of course, the people it has killed and is killing bought into such lunacy. Some of them bought Edsels, too.

Yeah, I got off the track on my discographical information and I'd still like my question answered, but once I get get started on cigarettes...

Ed S.
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Old 12-16-2002, 04:14 PM
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No Club Oasis on this CD, but....

Hi Edwin,

here’s a track-by-track list with the info I compiled these days to keep with my own CD copy of „Classic Duets“. Other than relying on printed info, I’ve also checked the tracks with the original broadcasts of the TV shows in question. You’ll notice it's a working print - some questions are still to be answered (and hopefully will through input from the forum).

1. Birth of the Blues – with Louis Armstrong
From „The Edsel Show“ (Ford Motor Company), broadcast Oct. 13, 1957 on CBS
Prerecorded (date and location not documented)
Arrangement by Heinie Beau, Orchestra conducted by Camarata

2. I’ll Never Smile Again – with The Hi-Lo’s
From „An Afternoon With Frank Sinatra“ (Timex), broadcast Dec. 13, 1959 on ABC Prerecorded Dec. 10, 1959 (location not documented)
Arrangement by Fred Stulce, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

3. Can’t We Be Friends – with Ella Fitzgerald (new special lyrics by Sammy Cahn)
From „An Afternoon With Frank Sinatra“ (Timex), broadcast Dec. 13, 1959 on ABC Prerecorded Dec. 10, 1959 (location not documented)
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

4. Medley: You Make Me Feel So Young/Them There Eyes/A Foggy Day/I’ve Got You Under My Skin/Taking A Chance On Love/They Can’t Take That Away From Me/All Of Me/Daddy/I Can’t Give You Anything But Love/You Must Have Been A Beautiful Baby – with Dinah Shore
From „Some of Manie’s Friends“ (Ligett & Myers), broadcast March 3, 1959 on NBC
Prerecorded February 22, 1959 (location not documented)
Medley arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

5. Nice Work If You Can Get It – with Peggy Lee
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #4 (Chesterfield), broadcast Nov. 8, 1957 on ABC Prerecorded (date not documented) at The El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

6. Side By Side – with The Tri-Tones (Nancy Sinatra, Jane Ross, Belinda Burrell)
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #3 (Bulova), broadcast Nov. 1, 1957 on ABC
Prerecorded (date not documented) at The El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

7. Something’s Gotta Give – with The McGuire Sisters
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #5 (Bulova), broadcast Nov. 15, 1957 on ABC
Prerecorded (date not documented) at The El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

8. If I Loved You – with Shirley Jones
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #18 (Chesterfield), broadcast Feb. 14, 1958 on ABC
Prerecorded or broadcast live (sources vary) from The El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

9. Together – with Bing Crosby and Dean Martin
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ (Timex), broadcast live Oct. 19, 1959 on ABC
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

10. High Hopes – with Kids
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ (Timex), broadcast live Oct. 19, 1959 on ABC
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

11. Medley: Sunday, Monday Or Always/On A Slow Boat To China/Saturday Night Is The Loneliest Night of the Week/Memories Are Made Of This/The Girl That I Marry/Innamorata/I’ve Got A Crush On You/Oh, Marie/Don’t Cry, Joe – with Dean Martin
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #7 (Chesterfield), broadcast (live?) Nov. 29, 1957 on ABC
The El Capitan Theatre, Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

12. Me And My Shadow – with Sammy Davis, Jr.
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #16 (Chesterfield), broadcast (live?) January 31, 1958 on ABC
The El Capitan Theatre, Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

13. September Song – with Bing Crosby
From „The Edsel Show“ (Ford Motor Company), broadcast Oct. 13, 1957 on CBS
Prerecorded (date and location not documented)
Arrangement by N.N., Orchestra conducted by Camarata
NOTE: This is only a segment of an originally longer medley Crosby and Sinatra performed at the show.

14. You’re The Top – with Ethel Merman
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #27 (Bulova), broadcast April 25, 1958 on ABC
The El Capitan Theatre, Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

15. I Can’t Believe that You’re In Love With Me – with Louis Prima and Keely Smith
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #14 (Chesterfield); broadcast Jan. 17, 1958 on ABC
The El Capitan Theatre, Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle (?), Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

16. Harold Arlen Medley: As Long As I Live/Paper Moon/One For My Baby/Accentuate The Positive/Stormy Weather/Get Happy/Between The Devil And The Deep Blue Sea – with Lena Horne
From „Here’s To The Ladies“ (Timex), broadcast live Febr. 15, 1960 on ABC
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

17. You Make Me Feel So Young (Old) – with Nancy Sinatra (special lyrics by Sammy Cahn)
From „Welcome Home Elvis“ (Timex), broadcast May 12, 1960 on ABC
Prerecorded March 26, 1960 at The Fountainbleau in Miami/Florida
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

18. Witchcraft/Love Me Tender – with Elvis Presley
From „Welcome Home Elvis“ (Timex), broadcast May 12, 1960 on ABC
Prerecorded March 26, 1960 at The Fountainbleau in Miami/Florida
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

19. Our Love Is Here To Stay – with Peggy Lee
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #4 (Chesterfield), broadcast Nov. 8, 1957 on ABC Prerecorded (date not documented) at The El Capitan Theatre in Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

20. Moonlight In Vermont/I May Be Wrong – with Ella Fitzgerald
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #29 (Bulova), broadcast live(?) May 9, 1958
The El Capitan Theatre, Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle

21. Put Your Dreams Away – with Ella Fitzgerald
From „The Frank Sinatra Show“ #29 (Bulova), broadcast live(?) May 9, 1958
The El Capitan Theatre, Hollywood
Arrangement by Nelson Riddle, Orchestra conducted by Nelson Riddle


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Old 12-19-2002, 01:10 PM
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Thanks, Bernhard

I thought you might come through with the data. Where did you get it? Does a listing of all his TV appearances exist?

Ed S.
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Old 12-21-2002, 03:41 AM
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Yes Ed, the list is in my computer . I've tried to keep it up to date with various info and research published over the years (I have taken notes for the sources of each individual date but omitted those in my above list), the most recent being from the Sinatra Database CD-Rom, and if possible for me, I compared everything with watching the original shows that sometimes have additional info in the closing credits.

Bernhard.
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Old 12-26-2002, 05:25 PM
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Danke, Bernie!!!

I have printed your listings to keep w/my "Classic Duets" CD.

You are, indeed, a font of Francis information!

Thank you, Danke, und Happy New Year, my Deutschland Friend!

Mary (Lois)
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Old 12-27-2002, 10:11 AM
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Dissapointing


This album does not seem to have been released here in the UK
I had to buy a US import.While the performances are great & FS
sound full of fun the quality of the recordings is patchy to say
the least!
Yea I know the recordings are old but we've heard much better
from much older sources.
I also find the lack of information dissapointing , the notes from
Nancy,Tina,& Frank Jr don't tells us anything-the whole thing
seems a little thrown together.
I always thought the other two Duet albums,
in terms of artwork & notes felt like you were
looking at them with closed eyes -they didn't feel Frank had
much involvement in them & we know he didn't have any in this
one, while I'm still glad to have it I have to ask why Frank never
put stuff like this out years ago.

Whatdoyerthink??
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Old 12-27-2002, 10:32 AM
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Thanks, Bernhard

Yes, as always, the incredible volume of knowledge that is Bernhard has made it MUCH easier to enjoy this CD.

Thank you, sir!
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Old 12-27-2002, 06:58 PM
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The responsibility belongs with the label

We supplied Capitol with all the information and they chose not to include it in the
booklet. If you write to them about it perhaps they will be more careful next time.


<< the notes from Nancy,Tina,& Frank Jr don't tells us anything >>

Well, that's debatable and I resent the comment. Talking about Dad is still hard for
us and I think all things considered, we did a good job. We answered the questions
put to us and gave the project a sweetness and a sense of continuity. The details of
the shows and performances were not asked of us, and, as I have said, the information
was provided in writing prior to the release of the c.d. and the show.

The booklet notes were taken from the live interviews.

I'd like to see you who are so quick to criticize just try to do something as tough as
this. Why are some people so damned critical? And why don't you take it up with the
labels?
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Old 12-28-2002, 08:03 AM
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"Classic Duets" booklet

I thought the booklet was very informative, loving and very poinant. I believe I even cried a little upon reading it. Perhaps some forum members are just not as "attached or consumed" as some other members, and don't feel like an "almost part of the Sinatra family" as many of us do.

It's always easy to unjustly criticize. Compliments just don't seem to want to come out of folks mouths or keyboards. As I've said on numerous postings, "You have to walk a mile in those mocasins before you know the pain and torment".

So friends, think FIRST before you write criticisms that you really know nothing about. Then re-read, edit, and perhaps even DELETE.

None of us can possibly comprehend what the Sinatra family has gone thru, is going thru, and will go thru in the future. The death of a loved family member is tramatic enough, but having a father who is so loved and adored the world over has to be a difficult cross to bear to say the least. Nancy has shown the patience of of a Saint! I KNOW I would not be half as understanding if these complete strangers were critical of MY father or my words. I only mention Nancy as she is the forum administrator. Mrs. Sinatra, Tina and Frank Jr. should also be considered as well when we write on this forum.

Just some advice from one who has been there. With age comes experience. My dear Papa always said: "Think before you speak, and look both ways before crossing the street!" I've always tried to do both in my sixty-five years!
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Old 12-28-2002, 10:56 AM
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I had a nice holiday gift. A friend of mine, knowing I was a Sinatra enthusiast and that I didn't have access to PBS, surprised me by loaning me her video recording of the PBS show on the Classic Duets cd.

It was a wonderful show! Some highlights for me: Frank & Louie Armstrong dueting together -- you could tell Frank was having a swell time, he looked so loose and like he was greatly enjoying himself; the duet between the very lovely Shirley Jones (what a voice!) and Frank -- something different, but very lovely. Very touching when, at the conclusion of the song, he took both her hands in his and kissed them. Most moving was the ending when Frank sang "Put Your Dreams Away" and left the studio. Gave me chills.

Very nice commentary by Frank Jr, Nancy & Tina -- it greatly added to the segments shown.

A personal observation, and something I never noticed before. As I watched Tina's commentary thoughout, I kept wondering who DOES she remind me of???? She has a lovely dark, dramatic look to her. Finally, it hit me. She reminded me a bit of Cher -- it probably would have hit me sooner if she'd had long hair. I think it has something to do with those pretty brown eyes... .

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