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Pal Joey - 1957
Based on the musical play by John O'Hara (book) & Rodgers and Hart (music & lyrics) Producer: Fred Kohlmar Director: George Sidney Screenplay: Dorothy Kingsley Music supervisor and conductor: Morris Stoloff Musical arrangements: Nelson Riddle Orchestrations: Arthur Morton Director of Photography: Harold Lipstein Choreography: Hermes Pan Gowns: Jean Louis Cast Frank Sinatra: Joey Evans Rita Hayworth: Vera Simpson Kim Novak: Linda English Barbara Nichols: Gladys Bobby Sherwood: Ned Galvin Frank Sinatra sings "I Didn't Know What Time It Was", "There's a Small Hotel", "I Could Write a Book", "The Lady Is a Tramp", "Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered", and "What Do I Care for a Dame?" (Notes transcribed from Nancy Sinatra's "Frank Sinatra: "An American Legend")
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the best of the lot
hi, what can i say about this movie that i haven't said. "pal joey" epitomize's the sinatra image in my eyes, the ladies rita hayworth and kim novak helped make this "the best of the lot" of all sinatra's movies. thanks, joe....
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I think this movie and Ocean's 11 really show who Frank Sinatra really was. Excellent movie, great lines, great acting and singing.
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Josh, I think I may disagree SLIGHTLY with you here. As paljoey said, the film epitomized the Sinatra image....but that's what it was, an image.
I'd find it pretty hard to believe that Frank, sitting at home with his family, was a ring-a-ding-ding kind of guy. But, I DO agree that, of all his films, Pal Joey is the one that exemplifies the swingin' Sinatra character the best. Jim
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I Respectfully disagree too
The film is just plain dull despite the "swinging" image which was really created by some wonderful photography.Undoubtedly the Sinatra's songs are wonderful, but there are not enough of them, Kim Novak is an embarassment, and the movie is so unfaithful to the original play that even the music is borrowed from other Rogers and Hart musicals. The story is so changed that I didn't recognize it when it was revived at THE GOODSPEED in Connecticut some time ago.
This is supposed to be about an ambitious heel who gets his commupence - not about a cute little puppy-dog and a yacht. Even the scintillating Rita Hayworth was upstaged by some bubbles. UGH!
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BobbySoxer!!!!! The film isn't DULL!
It's a great film, great actors and storyline! Plus Frank is gorge in it!! Check out this painting of him recording- |
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Pal Joey
I was at the library earlier and I brought home 'Pal Joey' again!
I will watch it later tonight. I have mentioned that I have the second half on tape... But the best songs are in the first half...So I have to check it out from the public library. I also checked out a video documentary on President Reagan. So I have some good viewing later. My favorite part of 'Pal Joey' is when FS sings "I Didn't Know What Time It Was". Now Bobby it is a "First time" for me....I dis agree about your comments regarding 'Pal Joey'. I just love the film. ![]() Frank Sinatra is an exceptionally fine actor . I loved him as Tony Mannetta(Hole In The Head), Frankie Machine...though I have never had a chance to see the whole picture (The Man With The Golden Arm) , Barney Sloan (Young At Heart), Joe E. Lewis (The Joker Is Wild), and of course as Private Angelo Maggio ( From Here To Eternity ) and a whole gang of others! (to use a little Frank jargon)
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Pal Joey
I watched it three times in the last few days!
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Pal Joey
This is one of my favorite movies with Frank.
The songs are gorgeous. I love the way Frank swings. Kim Novak and Rita Hayworth are absolutely wonderful. P.S. Martin, thank you again for taking the time to post the information for us! |
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PAL jOEY
Definately the best Sinatra film, its so SINATRA, the music is great especially with Lady Is A Tramp, Rita looks great, and Kim is a cutie.
IT JUST HAS EVERYTHING YOU COULD WANT IN A GOOD MOVIE, WHAT MORE IS THEIR TO SAY. Charlie
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I got the DVD of this movie. The color is fantastic. What a combo. Rogers & Hart Music, Frank Sinatra, Rita Hayward, Kim Novak. I loved all the songs so much. And Frank singing the Lady is a Tramp. That is awesome.
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PAL JOEY is one of my favorites of the Sinatra musical films. Great color, the lovely Rita Hayworth (I love when she is singing the song about being a former stripper!), a debonair and oh-so-good looking Frank Sinatra and some really nice songs. I have to admit that Kim Novak is not very good in this movie (she was so much better in PICNIC) and I cringe when she sings, but there are so many other things that work in this movie.
I understand that they softened the role of "Joey" quite a bit for this film adaptation. From what I've read, the original broadway production (starring Gene Kelly) had a much meaner, callous Joey. I also read that Kelly didn't think the show could ever be made into a film because Joey was such an unlikeable character. So they softened Joey, I guess. I would have liked to have seen the original PAL JOEY on Broadway because I can see Gene Kelly playing a callous, self-centered heel. Not because I don't like Gene (I do), but I think he had an underlying cockiness that would have helped him bring out Joey's less savory personality traits. |
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I'M A "PAL JOEY" FANATIC!
Watch it whenever I can, probably at least fifteen or more times. I know every word, movement, scene possible. My favorite scene is when Linda is beginning to do her "strip" and the expression on Joey's face is unexplainable! He wasn't acting-it was pure truth! And the way he placed his hand on the back of her head when he kissed her just melts me into a puddle!
Oh, and Kathy, I'm sure you know that the voices for Rita and Kim were dubbed! Here's a nifty photo from a teriffic scene! that ,
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Only an opinion
I have to admit i'm not a great fan of the movie, (apart from the musical numbers, Bewitched is superb, and The Lady Is A Tramp is legendary) but in my opinion the film moves very slowly for the most part, Hayworth is far too old to be convincing as a rival for Novak (who although looks good, has no dancing ability whatsoever)
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Pal Joey 1957
To Lux, one of my all time favorite movies, My favorite scene is when Frank is standing by the piano watching Rita do "Zip" love the look on his face, He always has that look when he really digs a woman, you never see him look at Kim that way.
To MerceyRat, How can you not love this movie, its so Sinatra, and the music is great. Rita was not too old for this part, she looked terrific and what a body. She has class, you know youth is not everything. Us old broads know what its all about and what to do about it. Kim was a kid, developing her talent and can't see where she has any class at all. CharlieHATES CALIF. CAUSE ITS COLD AND ITS DAMP, THATS WHY THE LADY IS A TRAMP. |
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INTERESTING FACT. . . .
Frank was 42, Rita was 39, and Kim was 24 when this wonderful movie was made.
I think the casting was perfect, Rita as the wealthy widow, only slightly younger than Joey, and Kim was the ingenue, just beginning her career! I didn't particularly care for the ending-walking off into the sunset, smaltzy, but still remember, this was 1957! I adore the actors, the sets, the dialogue and especially the songs/arrangements. I think they pulled it off perfectly. So there, Mr. Rat!!! You don't want to get these gals fighting with you, do you? , , Auntie Lux |
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AND HERE IS
MRS. SIMPSON IN ALL HER GLORY!!!
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Kim Novak couldn't dance? Who cares.
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Pal Joey 1957
Hey Lux, couldn't have said it better if I'd said it myself. Your my kind of gal. The pictures were great. Some guys don't know what they are talking about. Charlie
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CHARLIE, OUR SWEET MR. RAT. . .
knows when he's beaten! I posted the pic of Kim Novak as one of my dearest forum friends said that my new pic resembles an "older" Kim Novak. Perhaps, but I have a white dust cap on, and she is bare-headed. Nice complement, whenever and whereever!!!
I appreciate your support, Char.. . . .we "Vikings" have to stick together against these English Haggars!!! ![]() Lux |
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