[voice1]

More nonsense here...A Fine for Not Using a Biofuel That Doesn’t Exist

[johnofphilly]

Originally Posted by Jake

Here's another good one from the ETH website, again, I warn you, all this stuff is from a university created by the Swiss state, so it is socialist by nature and as such beware, be very afraid (ok, ok, I'll shut up):

http://glaciology.ethz.ch/messnetz/glacierlist.html

Hmm, 3 glaciers advancing, 86 retreating.... Advancing glaciers don't necessarily mean they are accumulating more than than is melted from them, only that the glacier and topological dynamics are such that advance is favourable. Retreating glaciers does, however, obviously mean they are melting faster than there is accumulation, as even the dynamics of topography and glaciers cannot compensate....

This link is even more entertaining...
http://glaciology.ethz.ch/messnetz/lengthvariation.html

Incidently, the "Grosser Aletsch" glacier is the longest in Switzerland and in western Europe.

I think all this proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Europe's Alpine glaciers are generally advancing, and as such, to the global warming advocates.

On the surface, it sounds like 3 vs. 86, although specifies nothing about size. All this is only northern hemispheric.

[Jake]

The only places in the Southern Hemisphere of great glaciologic importance is in the Andes and the Antarctic, with due respect to New Zealand. Remember that the southernmost city in the Southern Hemisphere, Ushuaia in Argentina, a lovely place btw, i loved it there, is at 54 south latitude, about 100 miles further south than Manchester and Edmonton are north, and that there's far more land mass in the Northern Hemisphere than there is in the Southern Hemisphere.

[MikeHOU]

Originally Posted by johnofphilly

On the surface, it sounds like 3 vs. 86, although specifies nothing about size. All this is only northern hemispheric.

Lots of info here on the entire planet:

http://www.grid.unep.ch/glaciers/

[Joe Szulczewski]

Originally Posted by MikeHOU

Lots of info here on the entire planet:

http://www.grid.unep.ch/glaciers/

So, as Deano would say, "Less ice for the salads."

Unfortunately, don't see any reason to believe that the trend will start to reverse itself any time soon.

Haven't heard of anything along these lines, but with what's staring us squarely in the face; why isn't someone trying to design or develop a technology to duplicate the end results of photosynthesis?

[MikeHOU]

A guy from Columbia University has an idea:

Source: YouTube

[Joe Szulczewski]

Great step 1. Step 2: instead of storing the CO2, which can upset the Carbon Cycle, find the way of splitting the CO2 to C and O2.

[MikeHOU]

His best talk yet:

Source: YouTube

[MikeHOU]

The extreme's continue - historic heat in US

The unseasonable warmth broke temperature records in more than 1,054 locations between March 13–19, as well daily lows in 627 locations, according to Hamweather. Cities as geographically diverse as Chicago, Des Moines, Traverse City (Michigan), Myrtle Beach, Madison (Wisconsin), Atlantic City, New York City, and Duluth, (Minnesota) all broke records for high temperatures in recent days.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=77465

[voice1]

Yep...sure has been warm around the country for the most part thanks to the Arctic Oscillation. Here's a temperature map for the rest of the globe. Global temperatures are cooler and cooling still.



This is actual global data which is showing a colder than normal March globally, a colder than normal year so far globally, a 3 year retreat in global temps.

[donnah]

Temperatures may well get colder due to global warming. It's the shifting of weather patterns they can cause extreme weather. I do believe we have some responsibility in this.

[MikeHOU]

Originally Posted by donnah

Temperatures may well get colder due to global warming. It's the shifting of weather patterns they can cause extreme weather. I do believe we have some responsibility in this.

Yes, very true.

On the global level, February was the 324th consecutive month of temperatures above the long-term average.

That is 27 years (since 1985) of temperatures remaining above the average!

NOAA: State of the Climate

During February 2012, many land areas around the globe, especially in the Northern Hemisphere, saw extreme warm or extreme cold temperatures compared with their averages.

[voice1]

Here are some interesting articles that continue to show the exaggeration of AGW
Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics

During MIS11 interglacial sea levels were 6-13 m higher, Nature study shows

The winter of 2012 was the 10th warmest since 1895 in the US, and was nearly five degrees cooler than 1932. All of the nine warmer winters occurred well below 350 ppm CO2.

Chicago had an 80 degree day on Friday. Looking at the USHCN records, there is nothing particularly unusual about this weather. Chicago has had seventeen March days over 80 degrees, including two in 1907, five in 1910, 1928, 1938, two in 1939, 1945, 1981 and three in 1986. All of those years had CO2 below 350 ppm.

The year 1910 had eleven March days over 70 degrees, including two 82 degree days and two 8o degree days. The year 1986 had two 83 degree days. Overall, warm March days are on the decline as CO2 has increased. There is no correlation between atmospheric CO2and warm Chicago March temperatures.

[MikeHOU]

Originally Posted by voice1

Chicago had an 80 degree day on Friday. Looking at the USHCN records, there is nothing particularly unusual about this weather.

Hmmm...I guess NOAA has it all wrong:

Records continue to be not only broken, but smashed across Northern Illinois.
...
In Chicago...prior to this year there had only been 10 days in March with highs in the 80s, which means on average, Chicago only sees an 80 degree high in March once about every 14 years. Already this month, there have been six days at or above 80, with an additional 80 degree high likely on Wednesday. Including the six days at or above 80 this March, there have now been a total of 16 March days at or above 80 in Chicago. This means about one third of one percent of all March days have been in the 80s in Chicago.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display...80740&source=0

[voice1]

I know...they've been wrong before though. Lots of times.

TIME Magazine June 1974: Another Ice Age?

In Africa, drought continues for the sixth consecutive year, adding terribly to the toll of famine victims. During 1972 record rains in parts of the U.S., Pakistan and Japan caused some of the worst flooding in centuries. In Canada’s wheat belt, a particularly chilly and rainy spring has delayed planting and may well bring a disappointingly small harvest. Rainy Britain, on the other hand, has suffered from uncharacteristic dry spells the past few springs. A series of unusually cold winters has gripped the American Far West, while New England and northern Europe have recently experienced the mildest winters within anyone’s recollection.

As they review the bizarre and unpredictable weather pattern of the past several years, a growing number of scientists are beginning to suspect that many seemingly contradictory meteorological fluctuations are actually part of a global climatic upheaval. However widely the weather varies from place to place and time to time, when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing. Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age.

April 3, 1974 : 148 Tornadoes In 24 Hours


1974 : Brisbane Underwater


More Ice In 2012 Than 1974


1974 was a very tough year obviously.

[MikeHOU]

The fact remains that for past 324 consecutive months the earth is running hot.

One other major difference from 1974 (38 years ago) is that now virtually all of the worlds Academies of Science are in agreement that AGW is occurring. In 1974 the Academies had no position on the subject.

The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society. Accumulating data from across the globe reveal a wide array of effects: rapidly melting glaciers, destabilization of major ice sheets, increases in extreme weather, rising sea level, shifts in species ranges, and more. The pace of change and the evidence of harm have increased markedly over the last five years. The time to control greenhouse gas emissions is now.

http://www.aaas.org/news/press_room/..._statement.pdf

[voice1]

What you say is absolutely true Mike...everyone of them is in some way beholden to government funding. Here are some other truths.

Dr. Edward Wegman--former chairman of the Committee on Applied and Theoretical Statistics of the National Academy of Sciences--demolishes the famous "hockey stick" graph that launched the global warming panic.

Dr. David Bromwich--president of the International Commission on Polar Meteorology--says "it's hard to see a global warming signal from the mainland of Antarctica right now."

Prof. Paul Reiter--Chief of Insects and Infectious Diseases at the famed Pasteur Institute--says "no major scientist with any long record in this field" accepts Al Gore's claim that global warming spreads mosquito-borne diseases.

Prof. Hendrik Tennekes--director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute--states "there exists no sound theoretical framework for climate predictability studies" used for global warming forecasts.

Dr. Christopher Landsea--past chairman of the American Meteorological Society's Committee on Tropical Meteorology and Tropical Cyclones--says "there are no known scientific studies that show a conclusive physical link between global warming and observed hurricane frequency and intensity."

Dr. Antonino Zichichi--one of the world's foremost physicists, former president of the European Physical Society, who discovered nuclear antimatter--calls global warming models "incoherent and invalid."

Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski--world-renowned expert on the ancient ice cores used in climate research--says the U.N. "based its global-warming hypothesis on arbitrary assumptions and these assumptions, it is now clear, are false."

Prof. Tom V. Segalstad--head of the Geological Museum, University of Oslo--says "most leading geologists" know the U.N.'s views "of Earth processes are implausible."

Dr. Syun-Ichi Akasofu--founding director of the International Arctic Research Center, twice named one of the "1,000 Most Cited Scientists," says much "Arctic warming during the last half of the last century is due to natural change."

Dr. Claude Allegre--member, U.S. National Academy of Sciences and French Academy of Science, he was among the first to sound the alarm on the dangers of global warming. His view now: "The cause of this climate change is unknown."

Dr. Richard Lindzen--Professor of Meteorology at M.I.T., member, the National Research Council Board on Atmospheric Sciences and Climate, says global warming alarmists "are trumpeting catastrophes that couldn't happen even if the models were right."

Dr. Habibullo Abdussamatov--head of the space research laboratory of the Russian Academy of Science's Pulkovo Observatory and of the International Space Station's Astrometria project says "the common view that man's industrial activity is a deciding factor in global warming has emerged from a misinterpretation of cause and effect relations."

Dr. Richard Tol--Principal researcher at the Institute for Environmental Studies at Vrije Universiteit, and Adjunct Professor at the Center for Integrated Study of the Human Dimensions of Global Change, at Carnegie Mellon University, calls the most influential global warming report of all time "preposterous . . . alarmist and incompetent."

Dr. Sami Solanki--director and scientific member at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, who argues that changes in the Sun's state, not human activity, may be the principal cause of global warming: "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures."

Prof. Freeman Dyson--one of the world's most eminent physicists says the models used to justify global warming alarmism are "full of fudge factors" and "do not begin to describe the real world."

Dr. Eigils Friis-Christensen--director of the Danish National Space Centre, vice-president of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy, who argues that changes in the Sun's behavior could account for most of the warming attributed by the UN to man-made CO2.

[MikeHOU]

Another record breaker today:

The official temperature as of 11 a.m. at O’Hare International Airport was 80 degrees, which breaks the previous high temperature for March 21 -- 77 degrees, which was set in 1938, the National Weather Service said.

[voice1]

Again..right on. Love that arctic oscillation. Of course our friends in Europe aren't so pleased with it. but it is not that uncommon.

Here are some other interesting high and low temperatures...you'll note the dates they occurred.

[MikeHOU]

Hmmm...the very first guy on your list was admonished for plagiarism in his global warming is non-sense report:

Climate study gets pulled after charges of plagiarism

No need to look at the rest of the list....keep trying tho...